Cheryl, today you are an international speaker and mentor. But where were you when you met Andy Harrington and came across the Public Speakers University?
It was November 2011 and I was at an event featuring Bob Proctor. I had been doing his online course – 6 minutes to success – because I was a very busy person and 6 minutes was about all I had. To be honest – I wasn’t entirely happy with my life but I wasn’t actively looking for something either because I didn’t know what I didn’t know!
I worked for many years in sales, selling cutlery, bath mats and soft furnishings, I’d even sold Disney lunchbags – and I had a sideline selling Ann Summers – which also sells toy related products!!. Life was OK at best, it was certainly unfulfilling and monotonous and I was depressed.
I remember clearly seeing this little cocky seeming guy appear on stage – he seemed cocky because he started by telling us we needed to respond to him. And he started talking about public speaking. He was very good at it, it was almost like watching entertainment. Public speaking wasn’t something I had ever thought about.
I was kinda listening as an interested observer, until he said the words that pierced my armour. He seemed to be looking directly at me as he said the words “If you were to die tomorrow, who would mourn your loss?” And then he said “If that number is small you have led a life of small influence.”
I was only half joking as I said to my mate – “Well I have about 42 friends on Facebook, so that’s a start.” She replied – “yeah – but you live in Yorkshire, and when it’s raining only half of those will turn out”.
It made me think. 21 people at my funeral. No thanks! So, I signed up for the Public Speakers University. Even though, at that time I thought I had nothing to talk about.
So, what happened when you attended the Public Speakers University?
It was January 2012 when I attended the University. I soon realised there was a lot more to it than just speaking about something. You had to have something to speak ABOUT. And being in that environment made me start thinking about what I was passionate about and I realised I did actually have something to share with the world.
You see I lost my cousin Linsey to a genetic condition called Cystic Fibrosis. She died far too young and she was an inspiration to me, because of the way she lived her life. She always said she would rather have 5 minutes of wonderful than a lifetime of regret. And because I had seen her go through what she did – I knew I couldn’t waste any more of my life working in a container, selling bath mats.
What happened after you went back home?
Well, to be honest, not a lot right away. There was a lot of process, and I was new to the ‘self development’ and ‘running your own business’ worlds, except that I had an Ann Summers business to keep me occupied in the evenings! But my mind was buzzing with possibilities.
I wasn’t quite ready to create a new business – I didn’t yet have the concept of what that would be - but I was ready for some things to change, and that’s why I had joined up for the Professional Speakers Academy. I knew that these were the people I needed to be around, and after attending several PSA days, and soaking up the learning, not long after I became a coach and trainer. I was soon mentoring hundreds of people all over the world who had joined the Academy.
I was also travelling all over the world and presenting parts – and sometimes all – of Andy’s 4 day Public Speakers University in places like Australia, Singapore, Canada and South Africa.
It was a whirlwind. And I knew that this is what I needed to be doing – and not just for Andy, but for myself too. I had found my “why” and I realised many other people felt like they were at a crossroads in their lives too. So I launched The Find Your WHY Foundation in 2015 with Marion Bevington helping others to find their passion & purpose
So where are you now?
My life has no comparison to where I was in 2012 when I met Andy. I was a hard working sales person, and sometime Ann Summers rep who was mostly unhappy with life and taking solace in her two best friends Stella and Gordon (that’s the beer and the gin if you don’t know my story).
My life has changed out of all recognition since then. Sometimes you just need someone to come into your life at the right moment, to help you to make the changes that you know you need to. Andy asked me to coach his clients - maybe he saw something in me because he gave me 93 x 1:1 clients & 4 groups of 20 clients, so instantly I became an International coach, mentoring across 4 continents & 5 time zones. This was the start of my new life, for which I am very grateful.
Now – I am living a life I really love. I am alcohol free. I recently moved into my dream property in Yorkshire, a beautiful 6 bedroom converted cow sheds with views across Yorkshire, where I now hold Master Class events. I have a community of WHY’s women and men in my online membership programme which I run with my business partner Marion Bevington, and we also hold retreats in Marrakesh as well as the Masterclasses.
I speak on stages all over the world – now also for myself promoting our Find Your WHY Foundation, because I know how important Finding Your Why is, and what it has done for my life.
A little story that illustrates how much my life has changed. I was in Sorrento at a wedding and we were in the town centre when I noticed a women with a bunch of people round her staring and then smiling and waving. I turned to look behind me as I didn’t recognise her, but nope, there was no-one there. She was smiling at me.
“Cheryl Chapman” she cried. ‘Oh yes’ I thought, ‘it’s set up!’ – expecting to turn round and see Mr C laughing. But he looked as confused as I was. The women left her group and walked over to me. “I saw you speak in Slovenia and I told you I was unhappy with my job. You asked me what I liked doing and I said, I like travel and I like people. And then you said the words that would change my life, you said – ‘why don’t you travel with people?’”.
Well I giggle about it now, and it is one of the stories I tell on stage. But you see – it perfectly illustrates the full circle that I have come. Since Andy looked at me on stage and asked me the question that made me question my funeral and decide to change my life, I had come to this place. Where I had asked a question of this woman, and she had changed her life. The student had become the teacher.
And that’s when I knew without a shadow of a doubt, that what I was doing WAS my purpose. In helping others to find their WHY, I had found mine.
I’m so grateful to Andy for being that person in my life, and enabling me to get to the place where I am that person for others. And I am excited about the future and what comes next.
I am an Ambassador for Andy’s business & I’m part of his 7 figure family, with many others that have achieved a 6 or 7 figure business using the system Andy originally taught me & that I have had the pleasure of teaching others. I stay also because would you agree you tend to emulate the people you are around?
Another thing I have picked up from Andy is that it is never done.
However good your creation, however much it sparkles and shines, it is always a work in motion. It is always an evolving entity. It will be different tomorrow from how and what it is today, because as I grow, and the people in our programs and memberships grow, then the ‘product’ or ‘service’ you provide must grow too.
If you know it’s time for a change – I recommend you attend the next Public Speakers University. It will change your life!
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